.

Residential Parking Permits Not Needed Near Barclays, City Says

DOT study promises plenty of spots for area residents around Atlantic Yards during games—but civic groups disagree.

A new study by the city Department of Transportation says there’s plenty of parking around the soon-to-be-opened Barclays Center, and that residential parking permits won’t be needed.

The July 6 DOT report gave Yankee Stadium in The Bronx as an example of why permit parking would not be necessary in the Brooklyn neighborhoods surrounding the 18,000-seat arena.

"Most fans who drive to games at Yankee Stadium park off-street. Of the 10 percent of fans who park on-street, most park in an area within a few blocks of the stadium. Throughout most of the area around Yankee Stadium, parking occupancies remain low enough that residents generally have spaces available to them during Yankee games," the report says.

Parking will be less of an issue at Barclays Center because it “will have a smaller seating capacity and even better transit accessibility," the report said.

The study looked at the 4,896 on-street parking spaces closest to Yankee Stadium, and found that occupancies only increase 10 percent during game days—the reason being that most fans use the parking lot.

At Barclays Center, the report found that 24 percent of 9,395 available spaces within a half-mile radius of the arena would be available during events.

DOT officials also argued that administering a residential parking permit program, aka RPP, would be expensive, and that residents might contest being charged for the permits since they would not guarantee a spot. 

Finally, the report said permits would inconvenience "non-residents who drive to the area and contribute to the neighborhood’s economic and social vitality." 

Tom Boast, vice president of the Prospect Heights Neighborhood Development Council, an organization that has long supported residential parking permits, said the point was not to guarantee parking for residents, but to discourage people from driving to the arena. 

"We still don’t see any disincentives to drive," he said. "At every turn, there’s more incentives to drive. ... When you read the study that’s your conclusion: 'Oh, there’s free parking there.'"

In addition, he doesn't think Yankee Stadium is a good comparison, because parking garages around Yankee Stadium are much closer than the ones identified by the   and while people might be willing to walk from a garage to a summer baseball game, they would be less likely to do so for a basketball game on a cold winter night.

"It's pretty disappointing because it seemed to be such a dismissal of RPP as a consideration," he said.

The DOT study concluded that "curb regulations and game and event day traffic management" would be a better way of "ensuring safety and limiting quality of life impacts of game day parking," but Boast noted that the study didn't give any indication of how it would implement those strategies. 

"They haven’t advanced the ball at all," he said. 

But while residential parking permits have strong support among area civic groups, not all community members are as enthusiastic.

Eustace L. Greaves Jr. who owns  on Bergen Street at Vanderbilt Avenue said he was worried a residential parking permit program might not provide permits for business owners.

"Many of us are in the neighborhood much more during the day than people who live here," he said. "I would like to know that our vehicles wouldn’t be kicked out of the neighborhood because we’re not residents."

"It’s all in the implementation," he added. "Do we take into the needs of the business community into account or not?" 

DOT officials promised Boast and other PHNDC members that it would review the situation once the arena opens in September, Boast said. 

Hugh Jassols July 13, 2012 at 06:35 PM
The fans that travel to Yankee Stadium park off street because there are enough garages around the stadium and they don't want to wait driving around the streets looking for parking while the game is on. Also its the Bronx do you trust your car in the street there? There are not enough garages around this neighborhood and it would be wise for those coming to take mass transit because you won't be able to drive after an event let alone drive around there now..
Robert July 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM
First they fight to prevent Forest City Ratner from building parking then they complain that people are going to park on the street...lol
Candace July 14, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Right, Robert -- because the idea is to prevent major gridlock and the massive air pollution that ensues with hundreds if not thousands of people driving to the arena rather than taking public transportation.
Chicken Underwear July 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Robert, we don't want them to drive here at all.
betty mosby July 14, 2012 at 04:06 PM
I live near the Barclay Center and parking is very bad here ,you have the Atlantic Ave Shopping Mall and City Agencies in the area,the mall is open late specially pathmark,they builded more houseing for people but nothing for cars.. We that live there can't even find parking ,so some that park thier cars on the street never move them ,.they go to work using mass transit and this goes from Fulton St and whatever cross street after fulton ,St fleix,Ft greene Pl. So Elliot . hanson Pl, So.Portland and So.Oxford. Anyone coming to the barclay center will have to use mass transit or be drop off there or use pathmark garage & they might rise thier fee..It's really a nitemare over here Ft greene for PARKING
Eustace Greaves Jr July 14, 2012 at 04:23 PM
Unlike Yankee Stadium which has ample off-street parking facilities to accomodate those who choose to drive, the Barclays Center, with the exception of the parking in the Atlantic Center mall, does not. In fact, what were once huge outoor parking lots within reasonable walking distance from the arena are either townhouses or soon will be. For those of you who don't think parking in this neighborhood presents a problem, try finding a legal spot at 8 am. I usually have to leave my office at 9:30 am and sit in my car in a legal spot until 10:00 am. And much of the new construction in the area doesn't even provide off-street parking solutions for those who will live there, and move in with cars. And believe me, there will be many, many people who will choose to drive to the area around the arena and park their cars the day before, just for the convenience of leaving the arena and getting into their own vehicle after an event. Right now, I wish they would pave paradise and put in some parking lots.
Amy Sara Clark July 14, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Eustace, not commenting on whether or not I agree with the sentiment, but I laughed out loud at the word play -Amy
Marty Larkowitz July 14, 2012 at 07:33 PM
Crushing traffic, exhaust, honking, and unsafe streets are Marty Markowitz' parting gifts to Brooklyn. Thanks, Marty!
Eustace Greaves Jr July 14, 2012 at 08:22 PM
Thank you Amy.
Reluctant Driver July 14, 2012 at 08:23 PM
Eustace -- not disagreeing with you, but why do YOU drive to neighborhood (I assume you live outside the area). I also drive, but I have to commute to a job in northern Westchester, so public transportation is not an option for me.
Hugh Jassols July 14, 2012 at 10:37 PM
There is what you call a double edged swords its going to cut going in and going out! The area needs more residential parking no doubt but they also didn't think roads infrastructure you had a hard time getting in and out before its really bad now and its going to be worse in a couple of months. What they always seems to forget when building these things or any building in NYC is that you have to move people. Whether by transit or bus or car but you have to make accommodations for being able to get in and out. You would be damned if you build more parking and damned if you didn't. I feel your pain down around 9th St we have people park their cars and hop the trains taking up spaces all hours of the day. If the cars are stuck in traffic they pollute the place up if you can get them out fast then maybe the pollution and noise would be better. The best solution is mass transit but they won't all take it.
Hugh Jassols July 14, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Reluctant... First off Bless you for having the patience to drive to Westchester. Just wondering I ask this because there are times I want to run screaming from Brooklyn but... I live in Park Slope but have to travel to Staten Island and Long Island for my job if you work in Northern Westchester why are you still in Brooklyn? Northern Westchester has some really nice places to live... Apartments with your own parking, houses with driveways, houses with yards... Stores banks and restaurants with their own parking just to tease a few perks. If I could get matching pay for work upstate I am moving!
Amy Sara Clark July 15, 2012 at 03:12 AM
Hugh (and Reluctant) I used to work at The Journal News in White Plains, and nearly moved to Tarrytown after commuting 75 minutes each day from Prospect Heights. But in the end I just couldn't leave NYC. As nice as Westchester is, it's not New York City (so I moved to Queens and split the difference).
Eustace Greaves Jr July 15, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Hugh, I drive to the office each day for several reasons. First, as an insurance broker, I spend time each day traveling to homes and businesses seeking insurance. (It's easier to say no to the legal two-family illegally converted into a four-family home before the company inspector goes to see the home. Check out my blog, brooklyncovered.com for a post about this subject.) Secondly, I am usually making one or two presentations about insurance or taxes to community groups in the evenings, so I use my car to get myself and my materials back and forth. Lastly, my dear mom is over 90 years old, and I visit her several times each week, sometimes before I reach the office, and sometimes during the middle of the working day? So Hugh, if it was up to me, I'd leave the car at home at least four days each week. Believe me, I'd like to use less gasoline. My only question for you is, why aren't you living in Northern Westchester so your getting to work is easier?
Hugh Jassols July 15, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Eustace I am in a similar situation taking care of mom and stuck with my companies office in Brooklyn. I hope i didn't come across wrong its just good to know you're not the only one in the same pickle juice. Amy it is so true I moved out west and came back it was nice but really missed nyc. There is nothing like it i almost kissed a subway car when i got back i never knew how much i missed mass transit. Too bad now I work having to drive between Staten Island Long Island and Brooklyn for my job.
Gracie July 17, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Alternate side parking is already a nightmare in the area, I don't anticipate it getting any better when the stadium opens.

Boards

More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something